AmunRa Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I have been having problems with red tea tangiers ever since I started buying it. I have gone through about 4 bags now, and I never can get it to smoke right. I've been through the learning curve with tangiers, and would consider myself well educated on the "tangiers way," but this is driving me crazy.My setup is a trimetal KM, medium phunnel, and nammour hose. I usually use 3 coco nara coals and a single layer of foil. I have tried acclimating the tobacco for 30 minutes, 1 hr, 2 hrs, 5 hrs, 10 hrs, 18 hrs, 24 hrs, and 48 hrs (not the same bag, but multiple ones). I can smoke just about any other tangioers flavor wonderfully with this setup, but red tea is kicking my ass. It's always harsh, and never has a very good flavor. Does anyone have a tip that works for this stuff? I'm about to go postal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (AmunRa @ Jan 15 2009, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have been having problems with red tea tangiers ever since I started buying it. I have gone through about 4 bags now, and I never can get it to smoke right. I've been through the learning curve with tangiers, and would consider myself well educated on the "tangiers way," but this is driving me crazy.My setup is a trimetal KM, medium phunnel, and nammour hose. I usually use 3 coco nara coals and a single layer of foil. I have tried acclimating the tobacco for 30 minutes, 1 hr, 2 hrs, 5 hrs, 10 hrs, 18 hrs, 24 hrs, and 48 hrs (not the same bag, but multiple ones). I can smoke just about any other tangioers flavor wonderfully with this setup, but red tea is kicking my ass. It's always harsh, and never has a very good flavor. Does anyone have a tip that works for this stuff? I'm about to go postal!I feel your pain my Red Tea has now been acclimating close to 2 weeks and isn't close to being ready, still smells like soy sauce drizzled over a bbq pit sitting out in the middle of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbs Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I gave up on red tea, traded it for a bit of AF, just couldn't get it, but I suck at Tangiers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmunRa Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 Phew..good I thought it was just me...I know this falvor will be awesome if i can get it to smoke properly! I gorgot to mention...I have also tried lucid red tea, and f-line red tea, and every mix of all three. Nothing works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shalowlow Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I know you probably want to enjoy the actual red rea but why don't you mix it with lemon or mint or something and see if you can at least enjoy it while you have it. It seems like you know what you are doing so maybe Red Tea is just not your thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Lucid doesnt need to be acclimated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmunRa Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 Yeah, mixing is not a bad idea. I don't have anythign to mix with right now.I am smoking it now and its terrible. I feel like I swallowed an S.O.S. pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbs Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (newjacksm @ Jan 15 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Lucid doesnt need to be acclimatedFor serious, lucid doesn't need to be acclimated? You can just smoke it like any other shisha right out of the bag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxiety Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) i acclimate lucid for 4 hours at least, i would not suggest smoking it right out of the bag, some people do but i play it safe as for the red tea, i just bought a batch myself tropical revenge and shnoozberry acclimated in 18 hours, red tea still soy sauce...i'll keep u posted Edited January 16, 2009 by Anxiety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I bought Red Tea in late November. Acclimated it for 12 hours (4 hours a day / 3 days). It had a very weak smell. When I went to smoke it, it tasted delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 After the 2 weeks of acclimating I smoked a bowl yesterday and it was like a wildfire, true I wasn't using a phunnel bowl, but I was following Mush's instructions on how to get it to smoke well in a reg bowl. I'm gonna let it acclimate til the damn mini's show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKammenzind Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Tangiers is a good brand, don't get me wrong... but I've had a couple batches that just plain don't seem right. Not old or opened or anything... but no matter how much I acclimate them, they just won't smell/taste right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judgeposer Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 You might end up tasting something, what's intended, if you used less than three coconaras - three, I believe, provides way too much heat for any size phunnel or regular bowl. While each environment is different, keep in mind that Eric serves a large head with four Canary coals for a session; even four Canaries provide less, but better distributed heat, than three coconaras. Aside, and seeing as how you've run through a few bags of red tea already, just try using less heat, and smoke a bowl, no matter what it smells like. You might be surprised. Also, in my experience, red tea's taste is much more subtle than other Tangiers flavors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I think my main problem is that I've NEVER been able to get flavor out of any tangiers. I gave it a try quite awhile back and just got a bunch again for the first time in about 14 months and it just doesn't seem to have changed much at all. Great clouds, occasional harshness, good buzz, no flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Just a thought try 2 coals and a windcover instead of 3 coals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (newjacksm @ Jan 15 2009, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Lucid doesnt need to be acclimatedi beg to differ, yeah my blue gum ball and passionfruit smoked right out of the bag but my raspberry still smells bad after a week of acclimating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Always get Red tea tasting perfect after just about 6 hours acclimation. Maybe we need to create a Tangiers Humidor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 if the humidity where you live is constantly changing, that may be a problem for tangiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Dont use so much coal as stated above. I have to split some of my jap coals in half to smoke Tangiers sometimes. So I'm actually using 2 halves of a jap coal and sometimes that is even too much. Just reduce your coal until it smokes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmunRa Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Sounds like the first thing I'll do is got to two coals and a wind cover. Thanks for the tips guys!The batch I have now is a mix of regular red tea and f-line red tea (50/50), and it has been acclimated for about 18 hours. I hope this session goes well. Otherwise it will be more wasted tobacco, coals, and time...I'll report back and let you know how you guys suggestions did.Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 QUOTE (AKammenzind @ Jan 16 2009, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tangiers is a good brand, don't get me wrong... but I've had a couple batches that just plain don't seem right. Not old or opened or anything... but no matter how much I acclimate them, they just won't smell/taste right.I have had these same issues over and over with almost all flavors accept k-peach melon blend, and a few others. That is why I mainly smoke Nakhla whenever I am in the mood for a buzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmunRa Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Ok, I'm smoking out of a different pipe this time, but still with the phunnel and nammour. This time, two coco coals and an wind cover...MUCH BETTER. I suppose coco naras put out more heat than I had surmised.It's still a little harsh at the end of the pull, but from experience, it should die down later in the session...I'll keep you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judgeposer Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 QUOTE (AmunRa @ Jan 17 2009, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ok, I'm smoking out of a different pipe this time, but still with the phunnel and nammour. This time, two coco coals and an wind cover...MUCH BETTER. I suppose coco naras put out more heat than I had surmised.It's still a little harsh at the end of the pull, but from experience, it should die down later in the session...I'll keep you posted.I'm interested to know how your session would be WITHOUT that windcover - try it if you can, even if for part of your session. Right now, I have a regular Red Tea, in a medium bowl, going...and three japs on top - and I will take one off in a few otherwise it'll get harsh. In any event, as someone said here or on another thread, Tangiers is a "heavy," strong smoke experience. Even my friends, who smoke other brands more regularly, still have problems with an extended session of Tangiers. It's not for everyone, but I've grown to be an exclusive Tangiers smoker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmunRa Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 The verdict is...two coco coals and a wind cover FTW. I always used three, but the session was great for about 20 minutes and then lost flavor (all except for a strong tobacco taste). Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmunRa Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 QUOTE (AmunRa @ Jan 17 2009, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ok, I'm smoking out of a different pipe this time, but still with the phunnel and nammour. This time, two coco coals and an wind cover...MUCH BETTER. I suppose coco naras put out more heat than I had surmised.It's still a little harsh at the end of the pull, but from experience, it should die down later in the session...I'll keep you posted.Indeed, I am becomming an exclusive Tangiers person, too. I had troubles with long sessions at first, but now I find I get tired of smoking after about 30 - 45 minutes. I smoke once a day though. As for skipping the wind cover, I have tried that too with good results. It is a littler more harsh, but not bad. (I say that because as you may have noticed already, Tangiers gets that way if you don't have enough heat.) For my rig, I like to use the cover anyways. Helps keep carpet repairs to a minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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